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Question:

Where can I find samples of green card applicaitons done under "Extraordinary Ability", "Exceptional Ability" and "National Interest Waiver"?

Which one of these can be self-petitioned without requiring employer sponsorship?

What would be the minimum lawyer charges filing these?

Answer:

NIW can self-petition, and EB1 (I can never remember whether it's extraordinary or exceptional ability...)

Don't try those without a lawyer! INS is VERY picky and inconsistent with those, and trying it without a lawyer would be a crap shot at best.

You should probably call several and see how much they would charge - expect something around $4000-$7000

An "exceptional ability" is employment-based and the employer must support the application.

A "NIW" and "extraordinary ability" are not employment based but require several pounds of supporting documentation to be seriously considered. There are only a couple of dozen lawyers in the States specializing on those and you must get one of those to succeed. Those good ones would cost at least $8K. But it depends on your case and a good lawyer would tell you exactly what your chances are just after the initial consultation.

A do-it-yourself-kit is available at www.us-immigration.com, but you'd have much better chances if you'd fall into some employment-based category.

$5K is over my budget, I could afford something like $1K. I will check with the library if I can find some books.

I'm afraid that books won't quite cut it. You are talking about the legal equivalent of brain surgery here!

If you screw up - and this is, unfortunately, quite likely, it is going to cost you a lot more than $5k, including your chance at a Green Card.

You may be aware of my reputation around here - but I would not dream do doing an NIW case by myself!

Most attorneys will let you spread payments over time and pay in installments of, for instance, $200/month.

Fortunately, Ingo is not quite correct here. Unlike many other categories, extraordinary ability and NIW allow to apply as many times as you want. But bear in mind that it is quite unlikely to be approved later if the first attempt failed (unless the circumstances changed drastically). Who has a shot with "extraordinary ability"? Let's see ...

- scientists with important discoveries or nuclear/rocket scientists (PhD is definitely required) - artists with paintings etc. hanging in museums, songs recorded on numerous CDs, etc. - book writers with wide circulation of their books (must have publications in English) - teachers who have established unique and successful pedagogical methods

those would cover 95% of possible applicants, there are some other exceptions though. You should definitely contact a lawyer before applying. Do-it-yourself kit is available at us-immigration.com, but if you'd like to do it yourself you better be an Einstein or Da Vinci or a Spice Girl

The "extraordinary ability" category is quite vague and the defintion of what is extraoridinary is subjective. But, I am quite sure that you don't have to be an Einstein to get get approved in this category.

I have done it myself (without a lawyer) and got approval at the first try. My background in brief: Ph.D. in computer science from a good school, reasonable number of journal and conference papers, presentations, about 6-8 recommendation letters etc.

Moreover, applying in this category does not preclude one to apply in other categories. So if one thinks he/she has a resonable chance of being successful, I don't see any harm in trying. This category does have some advantages like being not dependent on the company and being able to change jobs after EAD.

Contacting a lawyer is not a very good idea for this category. Since the contract is written such that the lawyer gets most of their fee only on approval, the lawyer always tries to push the NIW or Outstanding Researcher category which have less stringent requirements. That's what I felt when I talked to a few laywers. They all wanted to do in the Outstanding Researcher category. I personally feel that a lawyer is not very helpful for this category. But one needs VERY GOOD letters of recommendation from influential researchers saying the imporatnce of one's research in addition to the other qualifications stated above.

extraordinary ability''-this catagory is intended for the small percentage of individuals who have risen to the very top of their field of endeavor,in the scinces,arts,education,buisness or atheletics

That may well have been beginner's luck, or you did a very good job researching everything up front - few people have the resoruces and capabilities to do the necessary research.

I have yet to see such a contract. Most lawyers I am aware of charge in one of two ways: flat fee regardless of outcome, or by the hour.

I suspect that these lawyers are simply not experienced with anything else. Extraordinary Ability and NIW are such bad that not even every immigration lawyer is competent enough for them!

I saw the Outstanding Researcher application. I thought I could do better. I have not seen NIW or "Extraordinary Ability" applications. So, I cannot make judgement.

If I fail in NIW category, would it adversely effect the green card applications done under different categories?

I have been reading your posts. My hat is off to you. You have my respect. Others' opinions would not matter. I wished there were more net citizens like you.

Quite possibly. To begin with, you will have lost a lot of time, and may not have enough time to complete your GC process the regular way. You are also committed to a certain job description (unless you change jobs or went for the self-sponsored category). It's possible that something in an NIW application may contradict some requirements for an LC.

I know of a friend who did both RIR and outstanding researcher. Both are employer sponsored applications. RIR requires LC, but not the outstanding researcher. This combination seems fine, although outstanding researcher skips the LC stage.

I am thinking doing employer sponsored outstanding researcher and self-petitioned extraordinary ability. I wished to be able to stick to one category, which might be the one sponsored by the employer, however, in today's job market, it is not so easy to keep the same job for 3 or more years. If my position is terminated before than, I won't have any more time left for re-application. For this, if it is possible I would like to let the employer submit under the outstanding researcher category, and myself do a self-petition under the extraordinary ability (they only pay for one application, which is understandable).

Both of these categories skip the LC (if I am not wrong), but are sponsored differently. Would there be any legal problem?





 
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