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A less-kind, less-gentler Immigration Reform Bill?
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A less-kind, less-gentler Immigration Reform Bill?

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Hayworth has just introduced a bill that is much like the strict Kyl-Cornyn bill, but includes no guest workers.

The value of things like this: When the people in Congress know they are going to have to deal with some big difficult issue and produce real legislation, people from the various sides begin offering bills. The more support any of these bills get, the more influence its approach has on the final legislation. They are like negotiation offers, haggling. What you usually get in the end (if you get anything) is a compromise, something in the middle of everything that's been offered. The more hardcore bills like this that are offered and which receive constituent support, the closer you get to the type of reform you want.

This is the first major bill that offers no Guest Worker program at all. That is important, as the terrible idea has been normed, even among some people on the Illegals Reform side, that somehow Guest Workers must be part of it.

The only purpose of Guest Workers is to push down wages for Americans, there is no shortage of workers for jobs which don't already have special visa provisions. And any work gang situation that honestly can't be filled with sufficient Americans, ought not be done in the US anyway, so that we don't get stuck paying the socialized costs of their families.

It's interesting too, how the media, as if on some signal from the White House, goes through the motions of some kind of public "debate" on this issue of open borders and too massive an illegal alien population, which continues to mushroom out of control. The agenda of the Republicans has always been to flood the nation with tens of millions of immigrants and more tens of millions of illegals and then, after it is way too late, take some fake actions to look like they believe in the rule of law and preserving America as a First World, Western nation. An article posted in api just this week said that new immigrants (illegals) prefer to go to states that don't have a large immigrant population -- because they don't want to live among other Third World criminals. They have to move further into the interior to escape the Third World enclaves that are destroying our nation from within.

It's the 9-11 Intelligence Bill all over again, with new clothing and makeup. And like the previous bill, El Presidente Bush will refuse to spend the money for more Border Patrol agents, just as he refused to spend money to fix the levees on the Mississippi River.

But that's the whole issue, that the types of companies that hire illegal workers do so because they CAN'T outsource it to another country. You cannot outsource to another country restaurant and hotel services, construction, and agriculture. You might think that agriculture CAN and does get outsourced; sure, from the point of view of retailers. But OWNERS of farm land cannot send their land to another country.

There's another way of not paying of the socializing costs: taxing the worker, the employer, the US government, and the Mexican government. Social costs exist only because guest worker trade is UNREGULATED. Once you pay for the social costs, you would still have downward pressure on American wages; but then it would be a general FREE TRADE issue, because all free trade leaves some workers out in the cold.

That's old news, I've been puzzling that phenomena for several years. In CA we've been dealing with multitudes of Illegals since around 1980. Some before that, but not multitudes. It took off when the peso took one of its big plumets, right after Reagan came in.

And here we are in CA with countless Illegals, yet we still have the ability to pass plebecites against them at will, things like that. Because most of the new ones don't come here anymore.

They are parasitical upon white communities, that's where they want to go, where the best paying and most available jobs are. The coyote business is highly organized and tuned to get them where the anglo economy is - in the towns and communities in rest of the 50 states. The first time this REALLY sunk in was on a trip up through Oregon and Washington, stopping in places that are far distant from Atzlan by every measure. The first thing I heard at half of the stops I made was the staccato of Mexican Spanish wafting through the air. This is up in the Great North Woods I'm talking about. Paul Bunyan Country.

Recently I was left with my jaw open while watching on of those King Crab Fishing shows on Discovery, way the hell up in Alaska, out in the Barents Sea. Who is on at least one of the boats? Si, you guessed it.

Yes, there are VERY few work production situations that actually need cheap foriegn work gangs. I was thinking more like poultry production, that type of large-scale production or service. Very few things like that, but there are a few. It isn't that the jobs are too lowly for Americans, there is no such thing as that. But those production centers that are located in undesirable areas of the country as well (yes, I would call living in the sticks of Arkansas undesirable). No one is going to relocate to a place they very-much don't want to live, in order to pluck chickens for close to minimum wage, They will (gladly) work a job like that in a better region of the US, or around their hometowns. If it MUST be like that, if those are the people who are going to be doing this kind of production, they might as well move it to Mexico altogether and keep the contention that they would bring at home. Sure they'd prefer to remain living down there anyway.

Incidently (I think I went over this before) those service jobs you are referring to, those that can't be outsourced as can manufacturing are the very jobs that were _promised_ to US workers when the loss of manufacturing and such became a national phenom. The Service Economy, and the new Information Industries. That was the precise promise and justification made by the commerce people and the politicians who run interference for them. They were doing it every single day on the TV talkshows and news when NAFTA came for ratification.

One thing has become crystal clear: Business interests will say and promise ANYTHING in the public square nowadays, whilst having no intention whatsoever of keeping their part of the compact. They do not negotiate in good faith, ever, they are just spewers of self-serving garbage. Witness previous Amnesties. And these are the same people supporting Illegals and Guest Worker today, making similar promises and hanging out lures. That's why I am hardcore about it, that's why these arguments for compromise with them and Guest Workers get nowhere with me and most Americans. If they negotiated actual deals that they in good faith intend to keep, things would be a little different. But now our only option is to roll them. It's us or them, so far as the future of the US is concerned. It isn't like the people of the US need or want any of this, we're not going to play ball anymore.





 
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